In his Pentecost 12 sermon Glynn tackles the issue of what is holy and where do you find it? "What is holy? How do we know it to be holy? Are some places, words, actions and thoughts always sacred? Like most of us, I call it as I feel it. I can walk into a church and feel nothing holy. It’s just a big barn with a bunch of chairs. I can also walk into a barn and feel something holy. An arena of hay, animals, and dung was and can still be the nativity scene. The ordinary can be extraordinary." Full text at www.stmatthews.org.nz/nav.php?sid=322&id=751.